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Low Dose Mirapex and Recent PD Diagnosis

Roseann
1 post
Mar 06, 2009
11:21 AM
My body has not been cooperative over the last five years, progressively--I always attributed symptoms to stress and a sedentary job. Tried acupuncture, yoga, and pilates--all seemed to help initially but never seemed to restore my ability to walk well.

Several weeks ago I was diagnosed with PD. Treatment started with .l25 mg Mirapex 3x/day, increased weekly. Within a few days of reaching .5mg 3x/day (10 days ago), my symptoms increased to the point of not being able to walk into the office. The neurologist said to decrease to .375mg 3x/day, which I did immediately, until my next appointment--in 10 days.

I have not felt I could make it into the building since then. I have been on the recumbant bike for 20 min 2x/day, plus the Health Rider and stretching. Walking continues to be a challenge; at times, I still find I need a wall or counter when walking. Shakes come and go, but they seem to come when I'm stressing/concentrating on moving.

What should I expect the progress should be? And how long before I will be at the point of walking into the office? From what I've read, an increase or magnification of symptoms (rigidity, shakes, gait) could be linked to too high a dosse.

I realize everyone's reaction is different, but I'm just looking for feedback and, hopefully, reassurance.

Thanks.
~Roseann

michelle
206 posts
Mar 06, 2009
11:46 PM
HI Roseann - I wasn't sure from your post, is your ability to walk slightly better, not better at all, or worse when you take the mirapex? It may take a few days to get used to the mirapex. Initially, I ramped up my mirapex to .5 mg 3xday. I started having side effects, so I backed it down to .25mg 3xday. The step down was brutal. It took over 10 days before I felt well and my symptoms were worse than ever. Once the withdrawal was over my symptoms settled down and I was ok again. So, maybe you need some time to settle in at .375 mg or maybe you need to ramp it up or maybe switch to another medication altogether. The good news is you have lots of options, the bad new is it might take you awhile to dial in the right solution. Hang in there - you will get there. Good luck.
michelle
207 posts
Mar 06, 2009
11:49 PM
BTW, I take 1.0 mg mirapex plus 100mg amantadine in am, .5 mg mirapex at noon, .5 mg mirapex at 6 pm, 100 mg amantadine at bedtime. But, I've been at it for 3 years. That wasn't what I started with.
Roseann
2 posts
Mar 07, 2009
11:56 AM
Hi, Michelle--Thanks for the feedback. Initially, at the lower doses, I seemed to be walking better. And then I started exercising with the .5 mg 3x/day dose, which probably impacts the efficacy of Mirapex.
Sounds like what I'm lacking is patience, and the acceptance that I may be off work for a while longer.
michelle
210 posts
Mar 09, 2009
11:02 PM
Roseann - hang in there. Exercise is actually really important. Sometimes it helps you move better and sometimes you're too tired after. For example I have to walk my kids to school every morning btwn 8:15 and 8:30. I didn't realize how much that was helping me - a forced walk - until I noticed I didn't move as well during the weekend. On the other hand, if I do aerobics (it's getting harder all the time), then I move poorly for the rest of the day.

But, keep working w/ your Dr on the meds. Also, have another person who sees you regularly give their opinion. I find that how I feel vs. how I look to others can really vary.

Good luck - Michelle

ThePharmacist
214 posts
Mar 10, 2009
11:24 AM
rose,

As you know, the progression, symptoms, and treatment are different for everyone. I will tell you that pd treatment is very aggravating. Almost all the meds used are a "start low and go slow" regime. With all due respect, you have not given the medication or the dr time to work. Almost all of us have been on and off so many medications that we cannot even count them. In every city I speak in and every group I speak to the complaint is always the same," when will I see results?"

Hang in there. There are many different medication out there that are very successful at reducing symptoms. I will not lie to you, it does take time. I was diagnosed 6 years ago and have tried almost every medication available. Prior to that, I was misdiagnosed with essential tremors and was treated for 5 years with many medications for something I did not even have.

Please hang in there and keep a positive attitude. It will get better once you find the regime that works. If you need anything, let me know.

Best of health,

Mark

Kelly
7 posts
Jun 20, 2009
10:19 AM
Hi Mark,
I am a 41 year old female just diagnosed with PD over 7 weeks ago. Just like Roseann my treatment started with Mirapex only (the same amount she went through). When I got to .5 mg 3 x day my symptoms I was initially having had decreased (tremor, pain in right shoulder and being able to move my right fingers). New symptoms, however, set in. The worse being cramps and spasms in my right foot. They are constant, severe and painful. I also have tightness of chest (feels like my heart is going to come out - the dr. prescribed me paxil - thinks it might be anxiety, so just now taking that), and facial muscles twitching. I called the doctor and she said to try decreasing my dosage to .375 3x day. I tried that for a few days and things got worse (my original symptoms started coming back). So I called her back and she said she thought it might be the opposite, that they do need to increase my dosage - to .75 3x day. I haven't started on that dosage yet, but will in the next couple days. Having said all of this, I have a couple of questions. One, would Mirapex (or any medication) create PD symptoms that you have not had? It seems if you are not use to this medicine and they are just now being introduced into your body it could be possible. Could it be like people getting the flu when they get the flu shot? Two, do you or anyone else have this cramp/spasm problem and are only on Mirapex and if so, did it alone (and at what dose) did it all seem to help? I know everyone is different, the feedback will just help me. Last, is there a medication that seems to help the foot cramps in addition to Mirapex? I wonder why my neurologist just said to increase this and not add anything else. I am so anxious to find the right meds. to help with all of these symptoms as I am so uncomfortable. Sorry this is long.
Bea50
6 posts
Jun 24, 2009
4:25 AM
Kelly,

My neuroligist only changes one thing at a time to see how it affects me. Maybe that is why he/she did not add anything else at this time. Hope you can get regulated soon.

Bea50

ThePharmacist
298 posts
Jun 25, 2009
6:26 PM
Kelly,

I will try to handle this step by step.

With mirapex and related meds, the key is to start low and go slow. I will tell you that there is no "one pill cures all" when it comes to PD. PD has many symptoms to it. Depression and anxiety are 2 off them. Many times we stress because we cannot do something we used to do or we are nervious about how our body reacts when we are out in publec. This brings on anxiety. Anxiety increases the symptoms. It is a viscous cycle.

You asked if PD medication can bring out new symptoms. Yes and no. Too much sinemet can bring on dyskensia. So, you go from tremors to an involuntary muscle movement. The no part is this. When you take a medicine that takes care of tremors, for example, the other symptoms that were not so prevelant all of a sudden are more noticable. The other symptoms were there the whole time, but the main symptom was the worst.

As far as the cramping. There is a produest called baclofen that works great in PD patients to relieve spasms and , to a lesser extent, rigidity. It is a specific muscle relaxer that works differently than most. It does not work in the centers of the brain but rather post spinal cord.

Hope this helps.

Best of health,

Mark