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Time-Release Requip (Requip XL)
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djbk

2 post s
20-Jun-2008
8:57 AM
I saw that the FDA just approved the long-acting Requip, and it's expected to be available in pharmacies next month (July). I previously had terrible experiences w/ (regular) Reqiup's side effets -- especially compulsive behavior, "sleep attacks," and even a bit of paranoia. I was able to stop the compulsive behavior by going off the Requip and joining a 12-step program. (4 years of abstinence, and counting!) I'm worried about trying the long-acting Requip because I don't want to go down that road again (especially the compulsive behavior part). On the other hand, my doc -- who is fully aware of my prior experience -- observed that my extensive drug regimen is notable for its lack of any agonist. I do need something to help w/ fluctuations, on/off time, freezing episodes, etc. He thinks the Requip XL could really help me, and that since I'm more aware of potential compulsive behavior and have a support system to help prevent it, and since the new delivery system for Requip should be conducive to smoothing things out, I should give it a try. I'm really torn on this. Any advice? Any idea how I can determine if Requip XL is less likely to cause the side effects that accompanied tradidtional Requip?
ThePharmacist

49 post s
20-Jun-2008
7:37 PM
I completely understand your concern. I will give you a little of my past and I hope this puts it impersoectibe for you. I had the same issues with mirapex as you had with requip. I stopped taking the mirapex and switches to sinemet cr and had great success. About a year later the meupro patch came out. I was so excited that I could use the patch once daily and not several times a day like mirapex or sinemet. I tried it. At the lower dose I was fine but as soon as I went to the highway dose, many of the smart issues I had with mirapex came back. Needless to say, I am back on sinemet cr and am doing rather well. As you, I was excited about a long acting agonist being available, my dr was aware of my past issues, and I was willing to try anything.
from my experience, of you had a reaction to requip, you will probably have the same issues with the extended release requip. I had to nurse your bubble, I really don't want to see anyone go through of once let alone twice. I am not saying don't try or . I am saying that I'd you do make sure your support team is completely honest with you and your dr about what is going on.
I wish you the best and keep me updated.

Beat of health,

Mark

Greg63

40 post s
7-Jul-2008
2:16 PM
Requip XL approval has been postponed for release until the Fall 08....initially was going to be available in 2, 4, 8 mg...
Anything that is XL or patch would be worth a try
Best of health
Enid97

1 post
14-Jul-2008
8:11 PM
I have a friend with Parkinson, he gets the rigidity type of symptoms. He is on Mirapex for 8 years and is losing lots of his mental capacities and has many adverse symptoms. He has heart , gastrointestinal , narcolepsy problems and is unable too function normally. He feels the Mirapex has also causes him muscle stiffness. He has asked me to help him find information as he is uanble to function and do research on his own. I would like to know how could he get off the Mirapex and what medications could substitude that medication. He is also using Sinemet at the same time with Mirapex and he is not feeling any improvement with his medical condition. On the opposite the medications have made his life less active. Please if anyone knows of any alternatives to Mirapex let us know. Are there any natural remedies or treatments that could help him?
Greg63

44 post s
11-Aug-2008
10:26 AM
Greetings

Its my understanding that R XL was approved July 1, 2008.
Has anyone been started or switched to it and what were your results?

(I have posted this on the Message board as well)

Thanks

elk13

1 post
12-Aug-2008
10:33 AM
I just started Requip XL yesterday. I feel great so far. It is very expensive, but luckily I have reached my deductible for the year so the prescription did not require any out of pocket expenses. I too am worried about side effects. Anxiety and compulsiveness have been issues for me also. I'm even taking an anti-depressant to counter the symptoms, since the Requip is the only med to offer me the mobility I need as a teacher. Any advice on how to kkep moving without the side effects?
ThePharmacist

65 post s
1-Sep-2008
6:12 PM
The xl seems to be very successful in the patients that can tolerate the regular requip. It is also better for patients to take a tablet once daily as opposed to many times a day. It does take a short while for the body to adjust to the new release form.
Best of health,

Mark

pxxx

1 post
5-Sep-2008
2:01 AM
Hi
Am 42 years old and was diagnosed with pd in December last year after 5 years of thinking i was crazy!(which i am but thats got nothing t0 do with pd!)I on sinemetplus 1 1/2 3 times aday am due to start taking Requip and am so scared that am shaking!
My tablets were upped to 2 pills 3 times aday and had such bad dystonia that i ended up in hospital again!
Am worried that when i go on Requip that is going to happen again .Has anyone had good results taking Reqip.
Thanks

Last Edited on 5-Sep-2008 3:31 AM

ConnieD

301 post s
5-Sep-2008
11:37 AM
I've been on Requip 3 mg 3 xday now for about 3 months (the titrating starter pack for two months before that) and my initial side effects were nausea (okay if I eat 15-20 minutes before hand), sleepiness- that I had mild issues with that have since tapered off, and wild dreams that also ended about 2-3months after starting.. but this past month I started having bad dystonia and (new) dyskinesia with my left arm. My doc thinks the Requip is wearing off too fast and thus the increased dystonia and dyskinesia, so yesterday he gave me rx for the extended release. Hearing that people that tolerate regular requip well are more likely to be okay with the extended at the 8 mg/day - I'm excited and hopeful to give it a try and get rid of these other issues. I do know, however, that my dose of Requip now is relatively low- so the higher doses may have more and worse side effects for some people.

Hope some of this might be helpful. Good luck! Connie

ThePharmacist

73 post s
5-Sep-2008
11:48 AM
great input connie
ConnieD

309 post s
14-Sep-2008
8:52 PM
Hey Mark- been on the XL now a week and not sure what I think about it. My understanding from the doc is it's about an 18 hr med. So, he has me taking it 2 x day- and I've just spaced them equally apart- 12 hours. I take the first dose at 8:30 am (4mg) and then again at 8:30 pm.... It feels as if the Requip is still not quite working right. My feet/hands (toes twist apart/arches pitch up/fingers pull apart like toes/palms just hurt like h***) start cramping about 10:30 - 11:00 am... and then again about 6:00 pm where they stay cramped for most of the night until the 8:30 dose and then I'm waking about 3-4 am with my cramping again. I'm guessing, even though it's '18 hr' the XL most likely still has a peak period- so even though it's 4 mg 2xday how long really after I take the dose do I have 4 mg in my system before it starts dropping down? I was on 3 mg 3xday- so the 4 mg appears to be working good for the first 3-4 hours but then drops down and where the 3 mg 3xday wasn't working for me well there from mid-July to starting this XL, still maybe I need to bump up to more than 8 mg day with these 4 mg XL doses?

The doc wanted me to wait another week before starting the baclofen. I think more so to see if I was having any adverse reactions to the Requip XL, but the cramps and twisting toes are getting to be too much. I'm going to start the baclofen tomorrow- see if it helps. If it does then I could assume the XL is working okay at this dose, but if I still have these issues then I should look to up my XL dose.... good thing the walking speeds and fluidity (not sure if it's a word or not, but I like using it) are still going good.

Oh, sorry for the long post already but I have one more question... mid-July I developed dyskinesia in my left shoulder- mostly when I drove at 5-6 pm... those have calmed down a lot now since starting the XL (when I'm fatigued they seem to pick up, but if I'm pretty rested feeling it's not happening too much anymore)- that's good, but when that shoulder started I developed this unbelievable ache in my shoulder, arm and hand (I've had this before- I think the 'frozen shoulder' thing?) but now it's on my right side too.... is this perhaps from the Requip dose- would it be considered too high (too much in my system) or too low? And lastly (whew- thanks for your patience!) my doc is still hung up on a dx- he thinks I have too much dystonia, but I do also have young onset PD symptoms too- I read that resting (I would assume the twisting toes at 3 am waking me from dead of sleep is resting?) dystonia is not a true 'dystonia' type symptom but more commonly found as secondary to 'other' underlying conditions. Do you know if my understanding of this is correct... and if so... then would it appear that these twisting cramps could all be YOPD related?

Oyvay- sorry again for the long post!!!

Thanks much and wishing you best of health and pain free living!! ((hugs)) Connie

Ella

2 post s
15-Sep-2008
11:37 PM
Connie Your symptoms are very much like mine and you are taking the same meds. I have sufferd miserably from dystonia in this last year. I've been on Requip for 5 years and sinemet for about 3 1/2 years. First I started with end of dose fluctuations and so I moved the doses closer together. Then after a while I started to get dystonia at end of dose and then about an hour after taking meds. I would be very interested to hear how you are doing with the Baclofen. Do you have to take it on a regular basis or when needed?
ConnieD

310 post s
16-Sep-2008
3:19 PM
Hi Ella!

May I ask to bombard you with some questions? What were your first pd symptoms 5/6 years ago? You've been on Requip 5 years- how far into your pd diagnosis were you when you started the medication? How long after starting the Requip did you begin to have the fluctuations and dystonia? Was dystonia an original symptom for you before starting the Requip, or did it come on with the extended use of the Requip... or did it not start until after you added the sinemet? If it was an original symptom, has it increased and/or intensified with your Requip use?- your sinemet use? What does your doc say about that?

I'm frustrated with how great I feel on the Requip- but I've only been on it 5 months and already having all these dystonia and dyskinesia issues...doesn't it seem TOO early for these things? I read they should be later, I read they could occur with 7-24 mg daily doses on Requip- I was on 9...so yes, but after 5 months?...

Anyway. I started the baclofen last night- the pharmacy did not give me any titration instructions- said it was 10 mg 3xday. I took it last night at bed and woke feeling same as before- toes cramping, stiff and tight, same old thing that I've been having the past 2 months or so. So, I took another 10 mg dose this morning- whoofta, I'm having difficulties focusing, a swoony spacy feeling, almost a nausea feeling.... so I would guess the baclofen needs to build up in my system first. Maybe I'll hit okay levels at 20 mg day, or maybe I'll have to go to 30 or more- I read some people do hundreds of mg's a day.... so we'll just have to see how well it goes for the dystonia and dyskinesia- that's what he gave it to me for. Right now I would just like to feel better- not that I feel horrible, but I would SO like to not have these toes twisting many times a day!! email if you have any questions or thoughts you'd like to share... donalddouglas at comcast dot net.

((hugs)) Connie

DebiDoo

5 post s
21-Sep-2008
7:39 PM
My neurologist recently switched my med to Requip XL. I was to start with 2mg caplets every 24 hrs. Within the first 24 hrs, i developed a heaviness in my chest. Later, during the night i woke up and truly thought i was dying. I was extremely dizzy, I couldn't get a deep enough breath. If i sat up or stood up, i felt like i was passing out. My husband took my pulse, it was 48 , BP real low too. I continued the med for a day, now I have gone back to the reg Requip. But, i still do not feel well. I am still experiencing bradycardia. My husband says he thinks the only reason i am part way functional is because my BP has came up some.
Do you think it is still the requip xl, or is this an underlying heart problem that just happened at the same time.
thank you for your time.
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Debi
hivis2003

1 post
22-Sep-2008
7:12 PM
This may not be the right forum to discuss this issue with Requip XL, as I see it is for the Young On Set of Parkinsons. But, I came across this site as I was searching for some answers to the use of Requip XL. My stepfather is suffering from Parkinson's Disease, and had suffered a stroke 15 years ago. He takes much medication, but had suffered more and more falls as of late. The neurologist and my mother agreed to have him try the Requip XL at the lowest dosage possible and once a day. He did have some problems with his breathing, voice volume, but was showing signs of doing better. But, along with that improvement came more aggressive behaviors which were not at all like his sweet usual demeanor. My mom started to give him one pill every other day...and today she didn't give him any. Today then we had to take him to the ER, as he was having withdrawal from not taking the medicine. He was having hallucinations, body tremors, and not able to talk so we could understand him. The ER dr. told us this Requip XL is a powerful medicine, and can cause these side effects in some people. He is in the later stages of Parkinsons, and had only had taken it for 11 days! Imagine these side effects after only 2 weeks of taking it. Anyone else had these problems? The dr. said it could take 2-4 days for this to wear off....we hope he does..This is not good. He is worse now then before the medicine...but I guess we all have hope that something new is out there that will work. Thanks for listening. We will continue to read what everyone posts.
Greg63

45 post s
23-Sep-2008
8:50 AM
Greetings
My PWP has been on the XL (4mg)for about 3 weeks. He had very bad RLS at nite.
Since starting the XL things have been much better! Less nausea and sedation. We think it may be due to a steady state of the drug vs. up/down levels when dosing 3-4X/day.
It has helped tremendously with RLS...occasionally has to take a Requip NONXL at nite.
Plus it cuts down on remembering to take pills thruout the day.
PS. Never be shy about asking your Dr. about samples; especially with New Meds the companies flood them with samples!!
Best of Health!
CarlHernz

1 post
25-Sep-2008
9:46 AM
I started on Requip XL in August 2008 with very good results. It was added to my Sinemet CR therapy in an attempt to take me off of all L-dopa meds (because of increasing "on/off" phenomenon) and introduce Azliect in its place in combination with the Requip XL.

At this writing I am at 4mg a day, and while there has been some side effects like somnolence and moderate nausea, all in all the therapy works very well.

However, just as PD is different in each person, this like all other anti-Parkinson's medications act differently in each individual. My experience is that, regardless of the particular side effects you may be experiencing, one can expect to have to endure most of them for up to a month after titration has stopped and you have reached your effective dose (which also differs from person to person).

Each time titration occurs, expect another round of side effects as well EVEN IF MOST HAVE GONE AWAY after adjusting to your previous dose. The rule of thumb is that once an acceptable therapeutic response occurs, stop all attempts at increasing the dosage.

Also, read the product/patient information to see what you might expect as side-effects. I have noted from others that some of their experiences with this drug fall outside of the side effect profile for Requip XL and may be sign of something not connected to its use. With any drug, if you experience something that doesn't sound like anything described in the patient information, make sure your doctor or pharmacist knows immediately or seek medical attention just in case it might be something else.

Again, despite the side effects, the smooth and constant delivery of symptomatic relief I get from this drug is definitely an improvement over Sinemet CR alone and was worth the trouble that came with its use at the start.

spouse

1 post
15-Oct-2008
7:50 AM
Hi,

I'm the wife of a man 61, who was diagnosed 9 years ago with pd. He had been taking mirapex for quite a few years and developed an obsessive sexual disorder. He is now in the early stages of recovery for this disorder. And doing well dealing with his recovery. He was having some difficulties with his pd, so his doctor is trying him on requip xl. I am very worried that he is going to have the same problems with the requipxl, as with the mirapex.

ConnieD

324 post s
15-Oct-2008
8:26 PM
Hi spouse, sorry to hear about his addiction problems. I think it is SO hard to know if the same problems will result from Requip to Mirapex or vice versa as each person's body and brain are so different with this disease. I think it's great the doc is switching him to see if he improves- I would guess it's at least a 50/50 that he may or may not have the same response...but for both of you- let's shoot for the 50% that he WON'T have the same or any new types of addictions. It may take a long time before you'll know for sure if he will or won't, but while you're in the evaluation stage hopefully his other pd symptoms will remain improved. Good luck and hang in there- this is hard for both of you, take care of you too! ((hugs)) Connie
ThePharmacist

105 post s
29-Oct-2008
8:03 PM
spouse,

Make sure you hang in there. Now you know the signs to look out for, make sure you contact his dr asap if you start to see them.

You did the right thing.

Best of health,

Mark